Fishin With Ma | Digital Painting by AJ Brockman

in art •  3 months ago

– Edited Content (03/02/2018) –
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"Motherhood is a great honor and privilege, yet it is also synonymous with servanthood. Every day women are called upon to selflessly meet the needs of their families. Whether they are awake at night nursing a baby, spending their time and money on less-than-grateful teenagers, or preparing meals, moms continuously put others before themselves." –
Charles Stanley. Deep down I think this piece was subconsciously dedicated to my own mother. She is my rock and inspires me every day.

As artists I think we sometimes forget the importance of telling a story through our work. This can be more important than color choice, composition, subject matter… Really more important than anything! Even a poorly demonstrated work with an amazing visual story can still be successful. This dive deep into the psychological connection with what we see as "art". You can almost hear the mama bear explaining how to catch fish to her cub. I have always been guilty of Anthropomorphism : The attribution of human traits, emotions, or intentions to non-human entities. It is considered to be an innate tendency of human psychology. This piece definitely illustrates that.

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(NOTE : The above image is a Photoshop rendering to mockup how my work would appear as if it was actually printed. The reference image used is either royalty-free or one that I have purchased the rights to use through the original author.)

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Digital painting?

Could you explain your process? On the surface, it seems like you're applying a filter to existing photos and passing that off as a painting. I feel misled.

I found this. You didn't take this photograph. Did you?

http://www.icolumbus.net/board/index.html?id=gallery04&asort=recent&no=16

So you photoshopped a couple of bears onto that photo above, and you're calling this a painting?

For now, I'm flagging this post because I disagree with rewards after feeling misled. I'm also voting this comment up for visibility.

Feel free to explain yourself.

Here's a quote from your post:

Everything posted on my profile (@abrockman) is 100% original content and exclusively shared on steemit.

100%?


Update

I found this as well.

https://profhome.co.uk/product/deco-element-orac-decor-ulf-moritz-g71/

So obviously that picture of the bears on the wall doesn't exist. I'm still feeling misled. Even more now actually.


Update:

@abrockman has decided to be more open so people are not feeling misled in the future. I have removed my flag and there shouldn't be any more cause for concern.

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I am really saddened at how quickly you all jump to conclusions. I have explained my process several times… You are free to check out my video here : https://steemit.com/art/@abrockman/9tk6pe9e

I have never claimed I do not use reference photos (a very common practice among artists). The reference photo that you found, is the one I used, and I also paid the royalty fees to use it even though it is not a direct copy. This process is painstakingly produced over 60 hours and is not a "filter". I don't know what other proof I can give other than the actual process recorded in the video above.

All of my work is 100% original… Pertaining to the actual digital painting. I am sorry I did not clarify that I sometimes Photoshop my painting onto a wall to show what it would look like hanging in a room. I don't know how that comes across as plagiarism. Its simply a mockup to better display the final outcome. All of those base images are royalty free as well.

I can only assume this is turned into a witch hunt thanks to @berniesanders and my involvement with @jerrybanfield. I have put my heart and soul into this platform over the last 30 days, investing, commenting, building relationships, helping others, and sharing my work with all of you. My reputation can confirm this (63) in a relatively short amount of time. I had every intention of contributing full-time to this platform and growing it with all of you into what we know it can become. All of this recent drama really has me reconsidering that.

I urge all of you to Google my name (AJ Brockman) and do your own research from that as to my character and integrity.

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I am really saddened at how quickly you all jump to conclusions.

I didn't jump to any conclusions. I felt misled and I made that clear. After doing a quick image search and locating photographs that were not referenced in your post, I felt misled by these words of yours:

Everything posted on my profile (@abrockman) is 100% original content and exclusively shared on steemit. Any reproduction of my work without written consent is strictly prohibited. Please remember the best way to grow our community is by producing outstanding original content of your own to share with all of us.

That's not accurate if you're using another artists work as a template while neglecting to mention it and providing sources.

Your post is set up in a way that makes the altered photography appear as if it's been printed and put on a wall, but I found this wall, and there isn't a picture of bears on it. You didn't explain any of this beforehand. I felt incredibly misled after finding the photograph of the wall and realizing you simply photoshopped your altered photography onto said photograph of a wall. Your previous posts also include photographs of walls with your altered photography on them. I have reason to believe those "paintings" do not exist on those walls either because of this misleading post of yours.

I am sorry I did not clarify that I sometimes Photoshop my painting onto a wall to show what it would look like hanging in a room.

Thanks for admitting it; but after someone points it out? Being clear and honest in your post first means people won't feel misled after.

I feel misled by this:

I have put my heart and soul into this platform over the last 30 days, investing, commenting, building relationships, helping others, and sharing my work with all of you. My reputation can confirm this (63) in a relatively short amount of time.

Your wallet is public information. You bought votes. When you buy votes, your reputation number will rise. You're buying your reputation, but you left that part out.

If I bought a trophy that says, "Greatest Man In the World," and put it on the shelf, does that automatically make me the greatest man in the world? If I went around showing people the trophy I bought while claiming I earned it, does that make me a man of integrity? No. In that case, it doesn't.

Bringing up the reputation number and claiming it confirms your integrity, without mentioning that fact that you're paying for it, makes me feel misled. Since many others don't know how the reputation system works and don't realize buying votes can alter it, I felt it would be best to explain that so they aren't being misled as well.

Everyone makes mistakes. Googling your past does not take anything away from what you did and said here today. This isn't personal, I simply felt misled and showed why. You can learn from this, or, like you said:

All of this recent drama really has me reconsidering that.

A guilt trip? Run away? Nobody here did anything wrong. Some groups who handle potential cases of abuse were alerted and by the looks of things, standard procedures were followed. Nothing more.

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It is clear you have a vendetta against me for whatever reason… I have attached a prior conversation we have had below just for everyone's reference. I am done going back and forth on this. This all stems from you clearly being upset of my use of bots. My strategy as I have told you, is to use these bots (part of the community whether you like it or not, and not In any way breaking the rules of this platform) to build a following and increase my steem power to be able to give back to the community… That is my ultimate goal! I have been putting forth a full-time effort to this and in return It is great to actually be able to make money… Isn't that one of the many reasons we are all here in the first place? Everything I have invested is staying here in the platform (I am not powering down).

Even after all of this, I have no hard feelings against you, I just wish you would have handled things differently rather than publicly crucifying me over false accusations. I still believe in this platform and The most inspiring of all are the incredible people that are part of this community, That is what I am here for.

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That was a different conversation. I stand by my words. On that day, I did feel that your approach was unfair to ALL of the other artists here. So what, that's my opinion. Forcing other artists here to spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars just to be able to compete for a spot on the trending page doesn't sit right with me. I feel that's unfair and when you talk about supporting the community, while forcing the art community to spend money just to be able to compete with you; yeah, I personally don't see how that makes sense. I feel as if I'm standing up for these artists while you're busy attempting to say the right thing. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm right; it doesn't matter. That's my opinion.

There's no vendetta, I felt misled by this post, because I found those original photographs that you neglected to mention. It's an isolated incident. If I had more time, I'd go investigate your other posts and see if those made me feel misled as well.

I just wish you would have handled things differently rather than publicly crucifying me over false accusations.

I didn't accuse you of being misleading. I said I felt misled. I explained why I felt misled. It's nothing personal and I followed standard procedures. I alerted those who look into these sort of things, explained what I saw and their reaction was up to them. Their reaction was not influenced by me.

I don't want to argue. Again, it's nothing personal. I hope you can learn from this. You can say whatever you want, but in the end, it's your actions that will speak louder than your words.

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Quite the swift backlash there. I just want to throw my two cents in as a digital painter to say that @abrockman is correct that using photo reference is indeed very common. Just about all art is using photo reference in one way or another.

As someone who's been following @abrockman for a while now I assumed people knew that the images he used to show the paintings on a wall were Photoshopped, as this is also common to show what the pictures will look like in the context of an environment. It would be easy to find royalty free pictures of rooms to do this.

So if that's what you were upset about I'd say there's nothing to see here.

BUT...

I have to ask, are you using Studio Artist at any point in your process @abrockman?

https://synthetik.com/auto-assisted-manual-painting-feature/

I have to admit when I first saw your work about a month ago I immediately assumed you were using SA because it has a certain "look" to it. For those that don't know Studio Artist is a piece of software that allows for Artificial Intelligence assisted painting. It is not a one click solution or a filter, it's much more sophisticated than that, but it's not the same thing as hand painting and drawing either.

When I watched your video process I was further convinced that it was a part of your workflow because when the paintings of details parts show up, we don't see any of the painter interface and the way the paint appears is exactly how Studio Artist looks as it's auto-painting. So from that I assumed your workflow in reality looks more like

  • Block out the idea in Painter
  • Gather all photos and run them through either auto or assisted painter in SA
  • Comp the elements together in Photoshop to get lighting and values correct
  • Painter for further combining and unifying the elements

So to be honest, I have no beef with this process IF it's what you're doing. It would still be a lot of work and not easy by any stretch. It still requires the initial concept, the composition, you still need to apply color and value understanding to get everything to be unified. As far as my personal opinion goes, it's a legit approach. It's similar to the techniques used by a lot of matte painters and concept artists simply with a different output intention.

I guess the only problem would be you not being upfront about the process. I'd like anyone reading this to also know that this is pure speculation, I don't have any proof that this is what @abrockman is doing, just what it looks like from my perspective.

I'm not particularly fond of internet witch hunts and if I've added to this one I apologize, that wasn't my intention. Mostly to inform people so they can gauge this level headedly. If @abrockman is painting everything manually by hand, great! If not, a slight frown for being misleading, but not worth a crucifixion IMHO.

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Thanks for pointing this out.

Being honest isn't a form of witch hunting. People do not deserve to be mislead. I felt misled, explained why and that's that. Nothing more. When we look at the post; how it's worded, the structure, visuals; then compare that to what we've pointed out in our comments; look how much information was left out. It's misleading, there's no way around that.

Every artist, no matter how they produce their work, has a place here. There's no need to mislead people. Every artist here can and will eventually find their viewers and there's nothing wrong with being upfront, open and honest. That's actually the best approach... to anything.

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Hello @midlet, I really appreciate you adding to the discussion. Especially someone knowledgeable in the field and how these processes come to life. To answer some of your questions :

  1. I too was under the impression everyone assumed my mockups of the painting on the wall was Photoshop. I never claimed that that was digitally painted (doesn't even make sense) and again is a widely common practice as long as you are using royalty-free images or images you have bought the rights to (All of which I have done).

  2. I DO NOT use Studio Artist or any filter/automation for that matter. I take the exact process those programs apply and do them on my own. By doing that, I feel like it demonstrates my commitment and allows me to get as detailed as I do. Even the best-automated programs cannot accomplish a certain amount of fine detail from what I have found. The reason my video appears the way it does is because it takes me 60+ hours per painting and I have had to Record that process separately, at a high rate of speed, To be able to demonstrate what the process looks like. I have gone the extra mile in creating these tutorials because I know it can come across as confusing, even to people that are knowledgeable on the process.

Like you said, it is a similar process to What concept artists do and you are 100% correct in all of your other assumptions. I just apply it to the fine art world because of my physical limitations as anyone can find out by actually doing some research into who I am. My resume includes many accolades including creating a family portrait for president Obama. I'm not going to let the Internet drama get to me, I know that this work is not plagiarized and my own, I have done nothing wrong here but I will take whatever is being thrown at me.

Appreciate your time and look forward to chatting more.

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I'm not going to let the Internet drama get to me..

This should not be written off as "internet drama." Like it or not, and regardless of your credentials, there's no reason to look down on us.

I have done nothing wrong here...

There were a few problems, questions and concerns. All of this can be remedied, I'm sure. It's only a few downvotes. I've been flagged before, I'm still here. It's not the end of the world, man. If you have nothing to hide, don't hide it.

I had a look at a few of your other posts and I found many similar instances of the same thing that made me feel misled here while attempting to enjoy this post.

You're using the 'photography' tag. Where's the photo? If you're talking about that image with the art on the wall, technically, that's not a photo. It's an edited photo that should come with a source so people know the art doesn't exist on that wall. Nearly every post of yours comes with an image of the art hanging on a wall and I found many instances where you edited the photo and placed your digital image on a photograph of a wall. The elevator, the three fish with a plant beside, nearly everything I checked was an edited photo and you did not mention how the art doesn't actually exist on those walls, nor did you offer sources for the photo, and that is standard procedure here on Steemit.

Also, this line again:

100% original content and exclusively shared on steemit...

That's not accurate. I found many instances online where your work exists. It is not exclusive to Steemit. That line makes me feel misled after finding this out.

All of this can be remedied and you should be able to carry on. There's no reason to pretend these issues don't exist and act like you've done nothing wrong. We all make mistakes, you're still learning here, and that's fine.

Please consider taking a different approach, following standard procedures, and making things clear to your followers.

That's all. Have a nice day.

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Being a painter myself I had a sketchy (no pun intended) feeling from day one with the paintings by him. My eyes are well trained I would say and Brockmans pictures always gave away a feeling of PS filters. They are too perfect, too electronic. Either it's his style that he accomplished or an actual filter application. In the video tutorial it also looks like scaling down on an effect rather than painting the actual thing.

But I am open to be wrong. Time will tell I guess.

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Hi there. They're calling the photo I found a reference photo. Have you compared the photo and the "digital painting"? Would a reference photo be a precise match in your opinion? I've seen how other artists work, especially on this platform. Usually their reference photos are similar but never identical. I'm seeing a blurry version of the photo I found here. Even the smallest detail seems to be there but blurred. What are you seeing?

I watched the process video, but that doesn't necessarily mean the same process was used in this image here.

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Yeah, I have noticed that too that every shadow and light area shape is exactly the same as in the 'reference'.
Like I said his 'paintings' always gave away a photo feeling (which I am convinced they are). Browsing through his gallery on his website, it looks like a photo slide show and some are merely a crop job.

What made me doubt is the sheer influence he has had over the years even to the point where he 'did a painting' for the president and no one pointed out this fakery up until that point. That just creates cognitive dissonance in me as I can hardly believe in a scam up such a scope and magnitude. Would a really 'differently abled' person go to such lengths and sell photos as paintings tying the creation process to a heartfelt story of hard work with one finger? Cause that's what we are ultimately looking at, are we not, if this is true? This reality is hard to process and sad for me. It's that supposed massive lie behind that made me give him the benefit of doubt.

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I really don't know what to say at this point. My issue was with this post and this post only. I'll admit, finding that photograph of the river was quite the shock after how this post was originally presented. Noticing the striking similarities had to be brought up and I followed standard procedures. I had no idea this would lead to so many more unanswered questions. I think I'll just leave it at that.

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Probably not a bad idea to leave it there. Things will be dealt with...

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You should have at least cite the source of your images since they are not yours.

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That what I call a true research

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Great research! I agree... This is not original work!

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dun dun DUNNNNNNN

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:( what a disappointment seeing this... There's plenty of people out there trying to reach out and telling a story about their work and the away they see the world just to be completely put aside by liars... Mixed feelings about this community right now...

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Thank you, @nonameslefttouse for caring enough about this platform to keep it clean.

As a digital artist with integrity, I respect your judgement on this matter and am keen to hear @abrockman’s reply.

Not indicating that the content you copy/paste including images is not your original work could be seen as plagiarism.

#photography

Please refrain from using #photography for posting art, posting graphics, posting other people's photos without proper attribution or explicitly stating it's not yours.

Repeated use of the #photography tag when posting other people's photos without attribution or indicating it isn't yours could be considered spam. Spam is discouraged by the community and may result in action from the cheetah bot.

If you are the photographer please reply and let us know!

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This is my original content… As an artist, I use reference images, but it is in no way a "copy/paste" and even the reference photos I used I have purchased the rights to use. Happy to provide any documentation you would require but this post has been flagged under false accusations.

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I think doing this like photoshoping your art into another image takes away from the art as a whole

Looking beautiful

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lol, I like that meme. nice one.

Amo dibujar a lapiz, tal vez un día me motive a intentar un trabajo como el tuyo, me encantó y espero que continúes compartiendo pinturas así.

Okay I read through all of the comments here and I'm endeavoring to be as objective as possible. I would say that including the original photo, along with the source for that photo, would be the right way to go, because it does seem as though you created the entire thing yourself. Which seems a bit dishonest.
As for the voting bots. It is perfectly in your right to use them, as you stated. But I will tell you that anytime I, or many people I know, run across a post that is involved with vote buying, we pass it on by. And if you're name is remembered for it, it won't matter what number your reputation shows, it will have been 'bought'. Maybe that won't matter, I can't say, I'm unaware of anyone who has successfully moved away from upvote bots (or breaking even, if that) and started doing well on their own. Again, that doesn't mean it hasn't or won't happen.
But, yeah, just give credit to the original piece, that may solve this issue.

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Thank you for your input, I am using this entire situation as a learning experience and will be applying much of what you said to the future. Look forward to hearing from you again in the future.

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Great! I will certainly return.

Wow.
Excellent click.
keep it up.

Happy Steeming.

excellent your post dear @abrockman.

Nature is beautiful but is very tough as well, just as it was for us many thousands of years ago, and still for many people today unfortunately.

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Another excellent art! I am really a fan. I still love that orange vibe. Always feel like sunset.

Nice work

wow nice, bear is so nice

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i proud you my friend because your painting is very perfessional and perfect:)
please support me i need you upvoting and resteeming
thanks :)my bro

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I remember fly fishing on a remote river on Vancouver island, and as I watched my fly end its drift. I caught what first thought was a large dog. Then I realized it was Bear cub., them mom appeared. Your work reminded me of that day. Powerful stuff!

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Motherhood which specifically entails to Mother . It may synonymous to the word servant but a mother who have the dignity to serve her children first before herself is a great honor that we millenials should give importance . Your post sounds great .

Looking so nice. Waiting next post

@smileplease @truce @abrockman really amazing
I took the photo I hope you like:)249842_186481164829490_623084881_n.jpg

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It's really very similar to the original. is it for sale?

Good one
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Good panting💓😍
Upvoted done

Thanks for your sharing and you right bro! The best way to grow Steemit community is by producing outstanding original content!

very good

thank you for sharing your friends @abrockman, this is a great article to find out how they care and look after for daily living, and thank you also want to be friends with us

That's Amazing

It is pretty! I liked it, and nd your inspiration is great!!

Woow amazing, love it!

the painting of bears was very detail ... beautiful and cool.. good job.

nice photography

You got an upvote from @nextvote community
You are very right

"Motherhood is a great honor and privilege, yet it is also synonymous with servanthood. Every day women are called upon to selflessly meet the needs of their families. Whether they are awake at night nursing a baby, spending their time and money on less-than-grateful teenagers, or preparing meals, moms continuously put others before themselves."

Please vote I herudermawan yes thank you

Please vote I herudermawan yes thank you

Maybe my vote is nothing compared to what the master that is in steemit. but I've given my votes aren't even worth but at least I've tried my best

Interesante la controversia, todos tenemos fallas, te invito a ver mis Post,

very beautiful my friend :0